cliff. well, i think there are a lot worse things than going over a man-made cliff that i think is entirely artificial. i think the reality is the president of the united states has not come forward with any serious spending cuts. what the democrats are proposing is to take the tax increase now and then sometime next year eventually possibly we might have some kind of entitlement reform. that's a bad deal for the american people. >> greta: i don't know if it's a deal that anyone expects to be realistically kept. any deal made today in washington is amended next week and the week after or not kept. i mean, it's like you make your deal right now and you hope that even in last -- it lasts through the year. am i right? >> well, the only way to guarantee deals you pass it into law. then it's a lot harder to change them. and my only point is, you know, if we had a game, and every time the term fiscal cliff came up people had to donate a dollar to something, you'd be amazed in the course of a week